Seymour MO town council meeting – December 8th

I did not make the meeting tonight. To tell the truth I am disgusted. Out of the dozen churches in this town not a single Christian seems to think that they have a responsibility to control the government that they create and support.

The people in government make a mockery of doing what government is supposed to do. I went to the agenda for Dec. 8th and it was useless boiler plate. Following the letter of the law but spitting on the spirit of the law.

Those that do not live in the town limits are apathetic because they do not think what goes on in the town affects them – they could not be more wrong. And they do not attend county government meetings either.

The clergy is pathetic and guilty of walking with evil. Their 501c3 tax status is their God. They will not rock the boat, as the black robbed preachers did in revolutionary war times. Are they the Whores of Babylon from the Book of Revelation or just a look alike?

Most despicable is the press. They are selling us down the river. Many members of the press knowingly. Their weekly paycheck is  more important to them than the  future of this country. Whoever coined the term press-titutes was spot on IMHO.

Growing up I often wondered how the Christian nation of  Nazi Germany let what happen – happen. Now I know – as I am watching the Christians of Seymour MO let it  happen here.  The parallels are astonishing.

What Seymour needs is a few Ron Paul’s to run for city council. Well we actually have them, it is just the electorate here,  like the nation, is too stupid to elect them.

Seymour MO town council meeting – November 10th

Well it’s Thursday November 10th 2011 and the city council meeting agenda for tonight is not posted as it should be. Not the end of the world but is just indicative of what government is. They take money by force from people and then in return return substandard services because there is no incentive and no competition.  I saw this illustrated earlier this week when I had to use the Tax payer supported Seymour library computers (The city just bought them computers. God only knows why this is governments responsibility.) .  I first noticed that flash was not installed on the FireFox browser that I was using, there is no WiFi, and you can not use a memory card to actually store a download and take it with you, or use the USB to facilitate the upload, printing, or editing of a file you bring with you.  The computers are next to useless for many purposes and substandard to what would have to be offered in the free market. Why? Because government is providing the service, stealing the money to do this, and have no competition.

The meeting started promptly at 6 pm there were a whopping 5 people present tonight. The very first order of business seemed to be the approving of last weeks minutes which explains why they were not there when I went to post a link to them last week. (I say seemed because to a  city council neophyte like me that many things are not every clear but that will change in time I am sure.)  Minutes leave out so very much BTW and an audio or video record is very much needed.

I will get better as time goes on as I am very poor with names, but perhaps this is a blessing as I do not want to make my criticisms seem personal, it is ideas and institutions that I wish to criticize. I mean to attack the message and not the messenger.

There was mention of  putting in a bid for a “depot” on a high speed train line that is being planned. The time to get into Springfield will be about 10 minutes.  I do not see why this is an issue for government at any level or  why my tax dollars are paying the salary of anyone to spend time on this issue. I think this train may be a great thing, IF conceived and carried out in the free market I would support it. The  end never justifies the means and it applies in this case.

As part of the police report an incident on Halloween a masked in costumed individual came into the “Hot Spot” and had a knife.  I was not there personally but no  mention of this individual threatening anyone was mentioned, yet the local police and the sheriffs office was called. To make a long story short a K9 tracked this person home and they are now involved in the legal system.  All I can say is what a complete waste of resources and tax money. Like I said I was not there but the modus operandi of government seems as Ayn Rand predicted in Atlas Shrugged is to criminalize every thing and make everyone a criminal.  Is this incident as reported to me different in substance from me using a knife in my kitchen or possibly during a cook out at a city park?  I found the following story about the insane criminalization of everything in America.  Kidnapping and Ransom Rampant in the US

A man stopped for not stopping at a stop sign was arrested for a DUI with a blood alcohol of 2.37.  Let me state that I drive a motorcycle and am not a fan of people driving while impaired. I am still concerned about the disingenuous nature of these laws. Let me explain: The  DUI  BAC (blood alcohol content) limits are forever being lowered. For what reason I have to ask? If you have a commercial driving license they even give you a totally different BAC even when driving in your personal car. The test itself is inaccurate at measuring impairment as it only measures BAC and does not take into account the blood brain barrier, and built up tolerance. It is being used like  the “War on Drugs”  to justify illegal check points on our roads that throw the 4th amendment under the bus. Other  behaviors such as texting, having unruly children in the car, not having enough sleep, a diabetic having low blood sugar, have been shown in some experiments to create as much or more impairment as a 0.08 BAC but it is not politically correct to prosecute these other behaviors.  Why the double standard?  Trying not to drive under the influence is discouraged in the arrest of people that sleep in their cars for DUI. In many places just the act of sleeping in your car is illegal.  If one wants to walk somewhere and drink a beer on the way somewhere, one is arrested so the obvious choice is to drive where you can hide the fact that you are drinking. The building codes if not outright prohibiting  bar owners from providing a place to “sleep it off” – drive the price so high that it is not cost effective to do this.  Also with alcohol having an insanely high tax rate, taking advantage of the poor IMHO, none of it is used for things such as providing say a free cab to someone that has drank too much. Youth learn to drink and drive because drinking in a park or otherwise safe place is the best way to get arrested. Youth also learn to throw their cans on the road to avoid the insane “open container laws” that would fine them at the very least for an empty can in their vehicle. Lastly there is a steady stream of stories in the press about breathalyzer machines not being properly calibrated with no end in sight. Perhaps if those administering these tests with mis-calibrated  machines were threatened with long jail terms things would change. But I  almost forgot… our protectors are above the law unlike we mundanes.

A book could be written on the hypocrisy of the system on this issue, perhaps I will touch upon this at a later time. There are obviously more unanswered questions than answers with the, knee jerk implemented, federally dictated, war on DUI. The DUI laws are a study in contradictions and stupidity.

DUI Task Force Cop Admits Falsifying Breath Test Readings  How do we protect ourselves against this?

The city is going to buy 2  new Chevy Tahoe’s for the police department for $60,000. When discussing the traction on the 2 wheel version it was mentioned that the “armor” put a lot of weight onto the rear end. If I am not misunderstanding this – I find the extra cost of armor plus the degraded gas mileage to be an issue. Police are not even in the top 10 of dangerous jobs and this statistic includes big cities where things are much more dangerous that in Seymour MO.  (There are other areas where what exactly is occurring  are unclear. Due to time constraints, and my strengths and weakness’s I leave it to others to track down these possible misunderstandings.)

A fire engine was in for annual maintenance and passed with flying colors. The town also is sending new employees to fire 1 & 2 school. Cost was not mentioned. As you may have guessed I don’t think government belongs in the business of fire protection. No one has a God given right to having their house fire put out much less a right to steal off of his neighbors to pay for it. Also in the free market there would be a huge difference in the cost to provide  fire protection for a small poured concrete home with a sprinkler system and a 3 story, 5000 square food, balloon framed, home 3 miles from the nearest fire hydrant. Government provided fire protection turns  the proper free market distribution of cost on it’s head.

There was recently a small earth quake that separated the brick veneer from a building  and was in danger of falling on the sidewalk. The city was proud that they had recently changed the building codes so that they did not need the property owners permission to take this brick down.  My thoughts are, that with cities track record of never ending usurpation of property rights, through mala prohibita building codes, that this is a very dangerous slippery slope and that some other more freedom respecting solution should  be sought out. The trend is clear: you own nothing, using your property is just a permission granted to you and it gets worse every year. Again the end does not justify the means.

The city (I know I have been inconstant with the terms city and town. I  apologize.) is going to spend $3800 for a drive up window at the new city hall, so people do not have to get out of their cars.  I think this could be proper for a private business to do but a town by definition is spending  extorted money that is not theirs and should be very frugal. I am unsure how this window is enabling government to accomplish it’s one and only mission and that is to protect my God given inalienable rights.

Something was said about problems with the schools backhoe. You can read what I think about government involvement in education here.

There was talk about buying a  bobcat to dig graves at the cemetery. I surely feel like I just fell off of the turnip truck because for the life of me I do not see how protecting my God given rights has anything to do with digging graves and buying a bobcat with my money!

Lastly I discovered that town council meetings used to be recorded but someone filmed an executive session (Sounds like a star chamber to me.) and released it to the public, therefore they stopped filming town councils meetings. That logic sounds an awful lot like suspending the whole class when the teacher finds some bubble gum on the floor. Very contorted collectivist logic.

*Note on executive sessions:  When our government operates in secret and out of earshot of those that attend city counsel meetings -there is a good old boys network where certain goings on are leaked to the privileged members of the mainstream press. Take this article by Bob Anderson of The Webster County Citizen. I guess if you don’t suck up you are kept in the dark as to what goes on in the Star Chamber.

Besides I as told by a council member that divulging what goes on in the Star Chamber is a crime. As usual our owners are exempt from laws that apply to us mundanes.

I don’t  like the idea of the town filming themselves (we the citizens need to do this) as it always brings to mind malfunctioning government cameras when you need them the most, as was the governments story at the Oklahoma city bombing.

And how much does a film of the public meeting really mean when our employees get to meet in the dark in their executive sessions? I really don’t care how acceptable this is as slavery was once and still is acceptable in certain places. I don’t care how legal this is, remember that the genocide of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were all legal under their laws also. These private meetings of our government are an abomination.

As you can see there is very little that our local government does that fits under the definition of what government should be when this country was founded as espoused by the writings of Locke, Paine, and Jefferson. This is a perfect example of the tyranny of the majority. (democracy) The majority seems to support the trampling of their fellow mans rights, stealing from him, locking him in a cage, or even killing him if he protests the theft and usurpation’s. For the life of me I do not understand how people that call themselves Christians can do this and  can look in the mirror in the morning.

Seymour MO town council meeting – October 27th

The minutes of the  October 27th meeting are not listed at as of November 11th, 14 days after the meeting. This is what we come to expect of government, paying more than in the private market and getting less.  They are finally up here.

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Actually I  did take notes this time, I will get to it later, but for now I am going to go in another direction.  Have you ever seen this quote?

“The only purpose of a government is to protect a man’s rights, which means: To protect him from physical violence. A proper government is only a policeman, an agent of man’s self defense, and, as such, may resort to force only against those who start the use of force. The only proper function s of a government are: The police, to protect you from criminals; the army, to protect you from foreign invaders; and the courts, to protect your property and contracts from breach or fraud from others, to settle disputes by rational rules, according to objective laws.”

~ John Galt in Ayn Rand’s novel Atlas Shrugged

Let’s keep the above paradigm in mind as I relate to you what has happened to the request by Lincoln Justice a few weeks ago for changes to the restrictions on agriculture in the town limits.  This request it seems has gone down a memory hole and if we ever see it again, it will be as a passed law.  Unlike our congress in DC the citizens of Seymour are as far as I can ascertain not even privy to a written copy of the proposed legislation to comment on before it is passed. It seems that it is being constructed (if it is even being constructed) in the dark of night in the so called “Executive Sessions” rather than in the light of day of a public meeting. One would think that at a local level that we the people would have  more input and oversight of this process than we have in DC and Jeff City rather than less.

This is how the residents of Sedgwick Maine  interact with local government:

…The proposed ordinance was one of 78 being considered at the Sedgwick town meeting, that New England institution that has stood the test of time, allowing all of a town’s citizens to vote yea or nay on proposals to spend their tax money and, in this case, enact potentially far-reaching laws with national implications. They’ve been holding these meetings in the Sedgwick town hall (pictured above) since 1794. At Friday’s meeting, about 120 citizens raised their hands in unanimous approval of the ordinance…

Another cause for concern is the total lack of  effective checks and balances as to whether a particular  law violates the Inalienable Rights of any of the citizens of Seymour.  Towns routinely pass laws  that violate the powers that we the people have delegated to them.  Then the only way to try and change the law is to break the  law, go to jail, pay bail, a fine, and then spend tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars  and years of your life to take it through the courts.  If the town loses they often will then change a word or two in the legislation and the whole charade starts over again. There is something fundamentally wrong with this whole process in a free society. (Actually there was a time in our history when you did not have to break a law in order to challenge it, but that story is too long for here.)

The issues of citizen input, participation, oversight of proposed legislation, and some sort of litmus test  that it’s not violating peoples rights are sorely needed IMHO.

Please be patient as I add what happened at the meeting shortly…

On second thought I will save next weeks meeting for a trying a write up again.

A video recording would be much better than a write up anyhow.

*Note on executive sessions:  When our government operates in secret and out of earshot of those that attend city counsel meetings – there is a good old boys network where certain goings on are leaked to the privileged members of the mainstream press. Take this article by Bob Anderson of The Webster County Citizen. I guess if you don’t suck up you are kept in the dark as to what goes on in the Star Chamber.

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Seymour MO town council meeting – October 13th

I just got back from the town council meeting. There were 11 citizens present which was rather a crowd for Seymour. Lincoln Justice attended and I am going to try and find out if he is posting his notes from this meeting. I forgot my pen and notepad going out the door – I apologize.  So I will go from memory…..

As at the last meeting there was much alluding to discussing  things in closed session. It seems like there is all sorts of business that the little minds of the citizens should be shielded from hearing. I find this abhorrent. I don’t care if this has been going one since 1776 and is legally authorized by the State of Missouri. Keep in mind the difference between legal and lawful and that  everything Adolph Hitler did in Germany was “legal”.  This  discussion of the peoples business behind closed doors is wrong – it is very wrong.  it makes me trust government even less than the miniscule amount that I do now.

*Note on executive sessions:  When our government operates in secret and out of earshot of those that attend city counsel meetings -there is a good old boys network where certain goings on are leaked to the privileged members of the mainstream press. Take this article by Bob Anderson of The Webster County Citizen. I guess if you don’t suck up you are kept in the dark as to what goes on in the Star Chamber.

Government exists ONLY to protect our inalienable rights and that everything else belongs in the realm of the free market. (The founders believed this also.) Let’s not loose track of the fact that government after all gets all of it’s funding through the threat or actual use of force and it’s reach should be severely restricted in light of this fact.

If you listen to each and every issue that comes up in council  and hold it to the above litmus test, you quickly see that very little of what they do has anything remotely to do with protecting our God given rights and that most of it could be handled by the free market as it was in times when this county was freer.  Another litmus test that I like to use is that government should not be doing anything that you as an individual can not do. If they do then explain to me how you delegated that power to them since all of their power comes from the governed.

Very often government is not taking a legitimate action related to protecting our  God given rights. Instead they are just doing the will of the majority, or something that is popular with a segment of the population. When this happens,  instead of liberty what we have is an abomination called democracy – two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner. i.e. If the majority of the citizens in Seymour – through the council – want something, it is approved and then the money to pay for it is taken by threat of force (stolen) from the citizens. There is something really wrong with this model of government. It certainly is not liberty and it is not protecting us. Rather it is legalized and institutionalized theft and misuse of force.

I will have more to say later, but one of the biggest abominations of this nature is the stealing to fund the education of others children, at the threat of taking your home and property if you do not go along.  What part of the bible do Christians in this town not understand? Is “thou shalt not steal” not clear enough? What part of it is not clear?

When one chooses to have children you are expected to put a roof over their head. You are expected to clothe them. You are expected to feed them.  You are expected to supervise them when you are working.  Where then, do people get the idea that you have the right to steal off of their neighbors to educate their children? Please show me where you find this in scripture. Perhaps in the book of thieves?

As I said I will have more to say about other things that local government does  that are  in direct violation of God’s laws and also in violation of the principles that this country was founded on.  It is discouraging in that there seem to be very few, if any, effective tools that the citizen can use to keep local government from encroachment of our rights. Specifically what tools do a concerned minority have to hold the majorities feet to the fire and keep them from passing laws that have nothing do do with protecting, but rather encroach upon our rights? I submit to you that they are very few.

It would be great if someone with recording equipment could attend as I am sure that documentation of what is going on will come in handy some day.  If you have comments please post them below. If you attend a meeting I invite you to publish your own take on what you see transpire.

The next meeting will be Thursday Oct. 27th.

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The minutes for the October 13th meeting are posted here.
They are also listed below:

The Seymour Board of Alderman met for a regular meeting at 6:00 pm on
Thursday, October 13, 2011 in the Seymour City Hall Council Chambers, 114
East Washington Street.
Meeting called to order by Mayor Wayne Cantrell.
Roll call: William Pogue, Mary Carpenter, Janel Lindsey, Luke Wright.
Also present was City Administrator Darin Chappell, City Clerk Leslie Houk,
Police Chief Mike McFarland, City Prosecutor Ben Berkstresser.
Approval of Minutes
A motion was made by Carpenter/Lindsey to approve the minutes as written.
Ayes: All. Nays: None.
Approval to pay bills and make necessary transfers
A motion was made by Pogue/Carpenter to pay bills and make necessary
transfers. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
Citizen Comment‐Dean Rowe
The VFW and American Legion are looking at having an Emergency
Management Station at the legion Hall. The funds come from the State and
Federal. The only responsibility for the City would be a phone line. The board
would like to have the County come to the next meeting and explain exactly
what they are wanting.
Administrator’s Report‐Darin Chappell
See report
We received two bids for 2 library computers. The bids were from JMARK for
$3,987.07 and ISG Technology for $4,062.00. A motion was made by
Pogue/Carpenter to go with JMARK’s bid. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
Mayor’s Report‐Wayne Cantrell
Mayor Wayne Cantrell has noticed lots of brush piled up around town.
There are sofas set out on Steel Street. He would like one of the guys to pick
them up and put in the clean up dumpsters before the dumpsters are picked
up.
Aldermen’s Report
Alderman Janel Lindsey has noticed quite a few potholes around town.
Alderman Luke Wright noted that it was embarrassing when he found out by
the citizens of Seymour that the electric shed burned to the ground. He felt
the Alderman should have been one of the first to been informed.
Alderman William Pogue is concerned about the sewer system by the school.
With the last rain we got the school was having sewer problems. “We need to
get something going soon.”
Alderman William Pogue noticed that there is concrete tore out around the
square on the park side. He would like to see this fixed.
Alderman William Pogue noticed Center Streets street sign is leaning and has
been shot with paintballs. A lot of signs around town are leaning; he would
like to see these fixed.
Alderman Mary Carpenter noted that square needs to be striped and the
handicap parking symbols need repainted. Clinton Street also needs to be
striped.
Alderman Mary Carpenter is wondering when the auditors will be her. They
are doing some in house work for the City and will be here sometime in
November.
Alderman Mary Carpenter is wondering where we are on our recodification of
the code book. Mike Sullivan has to schedule a time to meet with us and go
over the draft.
A motion was made by Pogue/Lindsey to take a 10 minute break and go into
executive session. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
A motion was made by Pogue/Carpenter to go back into open session. Ayes:
All. Nays: None.
A motion was made by Pogue/Carpenter to hire Ty Johnson as a Volunteer
Fireman. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
Administrator Darin Chappell proposed merit raises for the City employees. A
motion was made by Wright/Lindsey to approve the wages effective October
31st, 2011. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
A motion was made by Pogue/Carpenter to have City Clerk Leslie Houk, City
Treasurer Melissa Fox and Mayor Wayne Cantrell on the accounts and
signature cards at The Homepride Bank. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
A motion was made by Pogue/Lindsey to adjourn. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
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Mayor Wayne Cantrell
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City Clerk Leslie Houk

Seymour MO town council meeting – September 23rd

The minutes for Sept 22nd are posted here:
Hey all…

I promised a report back on the town council meeting. You will have to excuse the disjointed nature of this report as I am very much under the weather and do not have the discipline to do much polishing of this narrative.

Let me start by saying that I was very impressed by the cordiality of those on the town council, and the whole 5 residents that decided to attend.

Even though our Seymour representatives presented the right image and frankly led  me to let my guard down, I think that is folly for the following reasons:

Do not forget that the first 3 presidents, Washington, Adams, and Jefferson, while honorable men did some very dubious things when they got into office. Washington supported a central bank. Adams supported the Alien and Sedition Acts. Jefferson illegally did the Louisiana purchase and put a trade embargo on trade for the entire country. The bottom line is that if I, Doug, or David ever got elected to local government that you should keep a very, very close eye on us as power truly does corrupt, and that we need to keep just as close an eye on those that currently hold office.

There was a very good air about this meeting – it had the informality and the participation that one would expect in a New Hampshire or Vermont town  hall meeting. My hat is off to those that have facilitated this atmosphere. As a town meeting neophyte, I was very pleasantly surprised at the whole way the meeting was conducted.

Here are some of the things that I learned:

The town council meets the 2nd and 4th Thursday of every month at 6 pm at the rear of the building where you pay your water bill. (city hall?)

You are also able to view the itinerary at city hall a few days before each meeting. (Could this be scanned an put on the Internet?)

Rather than a strict narrative I am just going to list my impressions mixed with the events.

I did not know of the itinerary and was lost at times as to what was going on. I do not know if there is a transcript available. I think that with the Internet that an audio and preferably a video record of the meeting would be very useful. I do not know if council would co-operate on this initiative but would think that if a citizen wanted to record the meeting that they would be impotent to prevent it, other than illegal and ill advised arrest of the perpetrator. Wisc. protesters arrested for filming lawmakers    *An update – it gets much better!*

I am not sure of the concealed carry laws at a council meeting but would assume the worse and would like to address the problem of a victim disarmament zone. I think there is a lot of irony of having those that we hire to serve us dictating to us conditions that put our lives in danger.

SHOOTOUT IN RUIDOSO

Ruidoso NM: Mayor bans firearms on public property. Citizens arm themselves, come to city council meeting and disobey the order.

Lincoln Justice brought up his ideas about getting government off the backs of citizens that want to produce food with in the city limits of Seymour. I was taken back by the councils concern with liability if they allowed bee’s within town limits. (Another discussion entirely.) Lincoln and I both suggested that the city rather than passing legalistic ordinances – respect the inalienable right of people to grow food by remaining neutral on the question, by removing all prohibitive ordinances on raising animals/food in town. That would both resolve them both of liability and respect the God given rights of residents. I went a step further and suggested that the town use nuisance law legislation to address any conflicts between residents in this area – and stay far away from trying to legislate constraints on what is a God given right.

One of the councilmen noted that Lincoln was associated with Well Fed Neighbor and expressed the hope that Ruell Chappel would open one of his stores in Seymour. (Are you entrepreneurs [farmers and shop keepers both] listening to this?)

Two very disturbing things that I heard:

In the discussion about a few new business’s coming to Seymour they refereed to the “negotiations” about where a particular business was to be located. It is amazing to me that this was going on in a supposed free country and society. Should this not be the business of the parties directly involved in the transaction?

You may find  this Reason TV video on this topic pertinent: TIMOTHY SANDEFUR ON THE RIGHT TO EARN A LIVING

I find there are 2 kinds of people: Those that want to be left alone and those that will not leave you alone. The latter type are the ones usually those attracted to government service.

And unfortunately those that want to be left alone do not attend town meetings much less run for office.

And  secondly:

When discussing people growing food in Seymour the council voiced the opinion that selling those rabbits would violate zoning and that would not be tolerated. Basically what they are saying is – that earning a living is not a God given inalienable right. That earning a living to feed yourself and your children is subject to the arbitrary dictates of your owners. This attitude also runs rough shod over any illusion that we actually  own the properties that we live on. Do you want to see where the slippery un-Godly “zoning” can eventually lead?  California Town Fines Couple For Holding Bible Study In Their Home

As some of you may or may not know I have lived a large part of my life homeless and on the road and it is laws like this that keep people from standing on their own 2 feet – put them on the dole and are against every principle that this country was founded upon in addition to being contrary to scripture.

Here are Pastor Chuck Baldwin’s thoughts on freedom in Amerika.

These laws that prevent business’s in residential areas are very selectively enforced in Seymour. We do not need selectively enforce laws. We need just laws that are evenly enforced. We need mala in se laws and not mala prohibita laws. We need lawful laws and not just legal laws.

(Another zoning/building code  issue that needs addressed is the abomination that occurred with the day care at the Rock. What ever happened to the absolute right of people to contract? If the parents wanted improvements they could have just voted with their feet. What we witnessed was an arbitrary, tyrannical increase in the price of day care that many parents could scarcely afford. Do you see how this issue relates to abortion in the bigger picture? If you don’t please voice your opinion in a comment below.)

Rachael and Lincoln both expressed interest in forming a citizens group that would meet prior to each council meeting to discuss matters.

Lastly I feel that if I alone continue attending these meetings, decide to rock the boat when it may be needed – I could become a target of the police and other players. (Do not disclude this as I have seen this in action a few times.) So I am hoping that others may choose to take up this responsibility with me – as voting once a year just does not cut it.

I like to say that politics is the way that you choose to treat your fellow man – and that being said it, is very much something that Christians should be involved in and concerned with.

Related articles:

SHOOTOUT IN RUIDOSO

Ruidoso NM: Mayor bans firearms on public property. Citizens arm themselves, come to city council meeting and disobey the order.

Wisc. protesters arrested for filming lawmakers

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I just discovered that the city has a web site.

The minutes for Sept 22nd are posted here:

 The Seymour Board of Alderman met for a regular meeting at 6:00 pm on
Thursday, September 22, 2011 at Seymour City Hall Board Room, 114 East
Washington Street.
Meeting called to order by Mayor, Wayne Cantrell.
Roll call: William Pogue, Mary Carpenter, Janel Lindsey, Luke Wright.
Also present was City Administrator Darin Chappell, City Clerk Leslie Houk,
City Attorney Ben Berkstresser, Police Chief Mike McFarland.
Approval of Minutes
A motion was made by Pogue/Carpenter to approve the minutes as written.
Ayes: All. Nays: None.
First reading of council bill number 2011‐675 – ordinance number 675: An
ordinance approving, and authorizing the Mayor of the city of Seymour,
Missouri, on behalf of said City to enter into, a power supply and
administration agreement, as well as a joint contract, among Missouri Joint
Municipal Electric Utility Commission and the City as a member of the Mid‐
Missouri Municipal Power Energy Pool. A motion was made by
Lindsey/Wright to approve Council bill number 2011‐675 for the first
reading. The following roll call vote was recorded. Ayes: Pogue, Carpenter,
Lindsey and Wright. Nays: None.
Second reading by title only council bill number 2011‐675 – ordinance
number 675: An ordinance approving, and authorizing the Mayor of the city
of Seymour, Missouri, on behalf of said City to enter into, a power supply and
administration agreement, as well as a joint contract, among Missouri Joint
Municipal Electric Utility Commission and the City as a member of the Mid‐
Missouri Municipal Power Energy Pool. A motion was made by
Pogue/Carpenter to approve Council bill number 2011‐675 for the second
reading by title only. The following roll call vote was recorded. Ayes: Pogue,
Carpenter, Lindsey and Wright. Nays: None.
Administrator’s Report‐Darin Chappell
See Report
Mayor’s Report‐Wayne Cantrell
Nothing to Report.
Aldermen’s Report
Order rugs for the Storm Shelter.
There is a speed limit sign that is not visible on Steel Street.
Property at Main and Garfield has chickens. Can we look into this?
Citizen Comment‐William Jackson
Mr. Jackson had some questions regarding a ticket he received for junk at his
residence. Chief McFarland explained to him that the ticket is a warning and if
he cleaned his property up it would be dismissed.
Citizen Comment‐Lincoln Justice
Mr. Justice has noticed that there are no honey bees in this area to pollinate.
The City of Seymour has a no bee ordinance. Mr. Justice would like to propose
an ordinance to allow bees and chickens inside the City.
A motion was made by Pogue/Carpenter to take a 10 minute break and go
into executive session. Ayes: All. Nays: None.

*Note on executive sessions:  When our government operates in secret and out of earshot of those that attend city counsel meetings -there is a good old boys network where certain goings on are leaked to the privileged members of the mainstream press. Take this article by Bob Anderson of The Webster County Citizen. I guess if you don’t suck up you are kept in the dark as to what goes on in the Star Chamber.


A motion was made by Pogue/Carpenter to go back into open session. Ayes:
All. Nays: None.
A motion was made by Pogue/Lindsey/ to adjourn. Ayes: All. Nays: None.
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Mayor Wayne Cantrell
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City Clerk Leslie Houk

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